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Nearly twenty years ago myself, hubby and two friends at the time decided to hold a ouija board session. We used a small table, cut out letters and numbers with yes and no. And an upturned stemmed glass was placed in the middle.
We did it for a short while when the friends wife decided to back out. Very soon after I became suspicious of our friend and believed he was moving the glass with his finger. So I decided to withdraw leaving himself and my husband to continue.
I thought a good idea would be to ask questions that neither hubby nor friend would know the answer to. I sat at the back of the room before I began. The first question was how old was my grandma when she died? (she passed away before I met my husband and friend). The second was what was my grandparents previous address before they moved into their bungalow?
To my utter amazement it got both answers correct. 74 years of age and 2 Wilson Avenue. Now I know, especially the address, that I hadn't told them. It wasn't something that came up in any conversations. But the strangest thing of all was that I believed my grandma was 74 when she died but in actual fact she was 72. When I discovered this mistake I was even more baffled given that the glass moved to 74. I wasn't anywhere near the table just to prevent any interference with it. Needless to say after doing this I was terrified. Whether someone believes in ouija boards or not they aren't a game and can leave someone wrecked with fear. I always tell people to err on the side of caution when it comes to things like this because of the mental damage it can do to someone. I was shaken up for a long time afterwards and have heard of stories where people have been left disturbed and unnerved by it. I don't know whether it's the power of suggestion but I'd rather leave something alone than risk feeling that way again.
Now I once explained this story on another infamous site (cough cough) and some opinions and suggestions were plausible. Things like psychosomatic and the ideomotor theory came up. We both wondered if it could be collective consciousness at play. But I've got to say I'm still baffled by it after all these years. So I thought I'd ask you guys what your thoughts were on ouija boards in general and my own encounter with one.
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« Reply #1 on Nov 10, 2008, 6:53am » | |
I believe that people can subconciously make the glass or whatever is being used move. We do the glass on public events..not the whole oija board thing but just a glass with yes and no. To me it is just anothwer way of possible communication and only hold the fear factor because of film and bad press and because many people try it first with their mates when they are kids and get so psychologically affected they fear it from then on.
Back to the subconcious movement. When we put our fingers on the glass (or on anything) there are very small almost unperceivable movements of the small muscles in the fingers. One finger wouldn't neccessarily make the glass move but a few fingers giving these involuntary movements could. It's not that anyone is neccessarily moving it on purpose they just don't realise what is happening.
You're experience however is very interesting. I am more of a believer in psychic ability than mediumship and my initial comment was going to be that if things happened exactly the way you say they did (which I have no reason to doubt) then maybe some sort of psychic interaction went on between you and the people (or one of the people) doing the glass. But you say they got something right that you thought was wrong until you checked it out..so that kind of rules out the psychic thing as they could only have answered what was in your mind at the time.
mmmnnnnn very interesting !
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« Reply #2 on Nov 10, 2008, 10:03am » | |
It was definitely strange especially when I got my grandma's age wrong and so did the board. I honestly had moved away and when it happened I was genuinely scared. The address part was bang on even to the number 2 at the beginning of it. I'd really love some answers that fit comfortably here. For a very long time I was a mess over it and so terrified that we even slept downstairs for so many days after doing it. Mind you even my husband felt uncomfortable in that house and he's far from jumpy, etc. It just goes to show how vulnerable we can be to fear. Unless someone partaking in this kind of activity has no fear going into it then I suggest they tread carefully.
It's strange how I never thought I'd had many strange experiences. But this year after opening up about them I realised I've had quite a few. There are others and when they were put together I was truly surprised. But if someone can help solve it or at least get half way there I'm happy.
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« Reply #4 on Nov 10, 2008, 1:13pm » | |
That's right. Now I hadn't been with my husband long before we married and the friends were initially his. Now my grandma's age when she died I may have spoken about in passing but from memory I couldn't think of when and my lovely better half just about manages to remember his own name let alone my ramblings  
My grandparents address though I'm 99% sure I didn't tell hubby, I always like to leave a margin for error. He didn't even know their last address and we lived a short distance away from family at the time which meant we didn't see them all the time.
Somehow quackers, and I don't know how, the board seemed to be connected to me because of the mistake in my grandma's age. Now I really believe our minds hold great potential but I'm not stamping myself as anything paranormal (even though telekinesis would be very welcomed ) It's still a mystery after all these years and even with the ideomotor theory or collective subconsciousness, etc, I'm still left wondering.
I'd be grateful if you or anyone can come up with something. Maybe I'll have a google search but the problem is it doesn't fit text book theories so it's harder to find what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway I'll keep looking. I've left it all these years up until about 7 months ago.......now I'd like to solve it more than ever.
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« Reply #5 on Nov 10, 2008, 5:09pm » | |
If infact as with dowsing rods,tarot etc etc these are all tools and the real channels are the people/persons using them.This would make sense 
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« Reply #6 on Nov 11, 2008, 8:32am » | |
Nov 10, 2008, 5:09pm, Lady K wrote:| If infact as with dowsing rods,tarot etc etc these are all tools and the real channels are the people/persons using them.This would make sense |
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I'm scared of labelling it Lady K but it was definitely strange. I've not dared to attempt this kind of thing since then as I'm not knowledgeable enough to try. It would be really interesting to see what would happen though.
The atmosphere was relaxed (well no one was shaking or screaming in that respect). And my attitude was one of "oh this is ridiculous our friend is pushing it". I kept calm while the board spelt the address and my grandma's age out. To be honest I was speechless. I'm not sure how to investigate it further other than get your's and other members opinions. I'm grateful for anything that would help. And from your post it does make me wonder. 
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« Reply #7 on Nov 11, 2008, 12:40pm » | |
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 at te end of the day something odd did happen...it is all down to personal belief at the end fo the day matey.Find the best answer that makes sense to you and label away
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« Reply #8 on Nov 11, 2008, 12:59pm » | |
Nov 11, 2008, 12:40pm, Lady K wrote:
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Will do Lady K thanks.
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« Reply #9 on Nov 23, 2008, 3:06pm » | |
Just want to add at this point that although I personally don't go with the oija boards bringing spirit through I am open to the possibility and many people on here might believe it and have concerns. My concerns are about the psychology issues. However it doesn't matter what your beliefs, whichever way you look at it oija boards are not actually things that should be done lightly or as a bit of fun.
My advice would be don't do them to be honest, but if you are going to make sure you are around people who at least have some knowledge of what they are doing...and I don't mean people who say "I've done this for years"..but who could be joe bloggs from down the street..I mean proper, experienced, trained people. Although, to be honest most people of this description would probably suggest it's not done anyway.
What worries me is how easy these boards are to come by. Ok if you wanted one you could make one so you can't stop people in that way. But having them on sale as toys is a whole different thing. What is that telling and teaching people ? Youngsters are open to suggestion and the power of the psychological more than anyone and should definately not be involved in the use of them.
I reckon when it comes to the sale of such things...if they have to do it there should be an age limit of 18 on them.
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« Reply #10 on Nov 23, 2008, 4:47pm » | |
Yes it's the psychological side that concerns me too. I mean what happened to us is still a mystery in a lot of ways but my fear was tenfold when we'd done it. I was terrified for a long time afterwards. Anyone who goes into this type of thing already terrified could suffer immeasurably. Whether it works or not you need to know what your doing before you even touch one.
I agree people should stay away from them or at least make sure the one's with you know their stuff.
Oh yeh I was disgusted when I discovered it can be bought like any board game. What kind of stupidity is that for goodness sake? Childrens minds need protecting not exposing to something like this. I also think that they shouldn't be displayed along with other games, It may not stop the sale of them but at least it will cut back. A lot of the time if someone can't see something in front of them they don't bother asking about it.
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« Reply #11 on Oct 21, 2009, 8:52pm » | |
Hello all
I have used boards for many years now and to be honest they still puzzle me even now. I have had mixed results on info which has come through...some right and some wrong and then there are the times it is just complete and utter twaddle...
I tend to side with the whole unconcious side of us somehow moving the glass but even when we just put the tip of our nails on the top of the glass so our hands are vertical it still moves and I would love to know how exactly.
I agree with what has been said and if you are ever unsure about usuing one then don't and certainly only do it when with people you trust and know as well as never do it when under the influence of any substance or if you are under any mental strain of any kind as this is when a message which comes through can be misinterpreted. I cannot remember the number of times I have been told I am going to die.....its a fact of life so is not really big news to me. I also get alot of 'Evil coming' and 'go' but again I remain open minded with it and never let it dwell on my mind afterwards.
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« Reply #12 on Oct 23, 2009, 8:55pm » | |
I have huge issues when it comes to this subject as I truly believe that these work more from our wanting them to work than any possible supernatural reaction
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